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Postby mickvick302 » Tue Dec 27, 2005 2:01 pm

On the blocked FG in OT...Peterson Obviously tried to punch it in, making it lower, but it was a hell of an athletic play by whoever blocked it. However looking at http://www.tampabaybucs.com/,(go there)The guy who blocked it, didn't get off the ground that far. So who do you guy's blame(or Credit) for the blocked FG
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Postby mickvick302 » Tue Dec 27, 2005 2:03 pm

Personally, I think it was a hell of an athletic play by that guy...but Peterson definatly could've kicked it higher...You still can't blame it on him...
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Postby Steve-O » Tue Dec 27, 2005 3:45 pm

yeah I gotta blame Peterson for this one...I mean when you are that close and you know the whole Bucs team is coming right up the gut then you got to get the ball higher in the air....

good job by the Bucs though to get that many people across the line of scrimmage...

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Postby dirtybirdnw » Tue Dec 27, 2005 4:00 pm

Come on guys... The Bucs jumped a mile into the air and blocked it. It isn't Peterson's fault, it isn't the holder or the snapper or even the offensive line. Those Buc defenders jump a mile in the air. I looked at it 3x just to see if one should have been flagged for capulting himself off of a fellow player. But those guys jumped a mile in the air un-assisted.

If you kick it high you risk the ball being shifted by the wind and missing the field goal.

If you want to bitch about something bitch about how our offense had two chances to get into FG range to win the game and sputtered at the 40 or less each time. Bitch about how our defense could at least hold on for a tie or hold on for a WIN at the end of the 4th quarter. Get off Peterson because we lost for far, far, far, far, far, far, far, many more reasons then a borderline low kick. I personally am getting tired of seeing weak attack on this team trying to blame someone for a loss. 99% of the time the Falcons lose and win and a team. I've been a nit picker too... I've called out officials, coaching, players, but the simple fact is that the team is banged up and under performing. Not only that I think a lot of us are really starting to shift our attention from what is wrong to a ghost in the machine that has nothing to do with our real problems. We don't have the talent we think and we sure as hell don't have any depth at most positions. That is our problem. Not Peterson's fractionally low kick.
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Postby mickvick302 » Tue Dec 27, 2005 5:04 pm

Look at it again DBNW, and when looking at the highest guy, look at the ground...he is at most 2 feet off the ground...Dewayne White blocked it. He is 6'2". He probably had an arm length of 3 feet or so....Add that up

11'2" at or around was how high Peterson's kick was.


One could easily tell that he tried to just punch it in, looking at his foot hit the ball. Which tells me that he couldve gotten it as high as maybe 14 feet or so. He was just worried about making it(which you can't blame him)So instead of worrying about it being blocked, he just wanted to make it. He didn't want to take the chance of maybe the wind effecting it.

Just some interesting stuff for you to think about...
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Postby Pudge » Wed Dec 28, 2005 3:45 am

Well I think if you consider that Peterson would have been voted to the Pro Bowl if not for the outstanding season of Neil Rackers (AKA the majority of the Cardinals offense in 2005). Now I don't know for a fact that Peterson is the 1st alternate on the NFC squad, but I'm assuming he is. If he's not 1st, then he's definitely 2nd (Jeff Wilkins is the only guy I could imagine being ahead of him).

Truthfully, it's kinda a "pick your poison" situation. I'd rather Peterson err on the side of accuracy than height.

Peterson's kick was 28 yards out. An extra point is about 19 yard kick. 5 of the 13 missed extra points were blocked this year (38.5%). Of the 178 missed field goals this year, 19 were blocked (10.6%). So although Peterson is closer than say from 40 yards, one has to consider that the chances of his kick being blocked are very low.

When you consider his accuracy (about 90%), and the fact that the likelihood he'll miss a FG is about 10%, and then that the chances of that being due to a block, it's about a 1% chance of his kick being blocked. So again, I'd rather him go after accuracy because the risks are higher in that way. He's 9 times as more likely to miss due to it going wide left/right or hitting an upright than getting it blocked.

I personally think it was an excellent play on the part of the Bucs. It wasn't Peterson's fault we lost that game. He didn't help us win, but I'm very far from blaming losses on him. It's two things I hate blaming losses on: 1) refs and 2) kickers. 99% of the time it doesn't speak well for the rest of your team's performance when you put the game on either of those two groups shoulders to win.
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Postby dirtybirdnw » Wed Dec 28, 2005 12:04 pm

Pudge wrote:I personally think it was an excellent play on the part of the Bucs. It wasn't Peterson's fault we lost that game. He didn't help us win, but I'm very far from blaming losses on him. It's two things I hate blaming losses on: 1) refs and 2) kickers. 99% of the time it doesn't speak well for the rest of your team's performance when you put the game on either of those two groups shoulders to win.


Couldn't have said it better myself. People kicking Peterson around are suffering from a case of sour grapes and are shifting blame around. The Falcons SHOULD have won that game and never let it reach overtime. No excuse to let Tampa drive the length of the field inside 2 minutes and score a touchdown.
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Postby mickvick302 » Wed Dec 28, 2005 12:12 pm

dirtybirdnw wrote:
Pudge wrote:I personally think it was an excellent play on the part of the Bucs. It wasn't Peterson's fault we lost that game. He didn't help us win, but I'm very far from blaming losses on him. It's two things I hate blaming losses on: 1) refs and 2) kickers. 99% of the time it doesn't speak well for the rest of your team's performance when you put the game on either of those two groups shoulders to win.


Couldn't have said it better myself. People kicking Peterson around are suffering from a case of sour grapes and are shifting blame around. The Falcons SHOULD have won that game and never let it reach overtime. No excuse to let Tampa drive the length of the field inside 2 minutes and score a touchdown.


I never blamed it on Peterson, in fact I also called it a fantastic play by the Buc's Special Teams, but you two are right....You can't blame the game on one little mistake. We had other chances in OT that we couldve won it, so there is just as much blame on the Offense for not getting the Job done when it counted
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Fault lies on playing safe.

Postby ATLFalcon76 » Wed Dec 28, 2005 12:47 pm

I have always been a fan of trying to score a touchdown, not settling for a field goal. We were gaining 8 yards a clip. We had our foot on their throat. We should of stomped it. That is what happens when you play "safe" all the time. We should of tried, conservatively, to score.

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Re: Fault lies on playing safe.

Postby mickvick302 » Wed Dec 28, 2005 11:09 pm

ATLFalcon76 wrote:I have always been a fan of trying to score a touchdown, not settling for a field goal. We were gaining 8 yards a clip. We had our foot on their throat. We should of stomped it. That is what happens when you play "safe" all the time. We should of tried, conservatively, to score.



Yes, but if you don't get the TD, then the coach get's criticism for not kicking it...So, pick your poison.
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Postby dirtybirdnw » Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:00 am

I was in a blah mood yesterday; can you tell? :)
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