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I have seen a couple of post about who we would have drafted if we had kept our picks. We have paid the piper and looking at what the Browns did with the picks I ask, do you think it was worth it. When you break it down would you trade:

Browns get:
DT Phil Taylor
WR Greg Little
FB Owen Marecic
QB Brandon Weeden
LB James-Michael Johnson

Falcons get:
WR Julio Jones

IMO I would have given up all of those players for Julio, the only ones who have a chance to start on our team right now is Taylo,r a player who doesn't fit our 4-3 scheme and isn't light years better than Babs or Peters. The other is Marecic who isn't even better than Ewing. So if those players were on the Falcon's roster today and Julio was on the Browns and a story broke that we traded for Julio and they were the compensation would you scowl and curse TD or would you applaud it?

I think it's more accurate if you look at who the Falcons would have taken. That's not too hard for last year, but it's very hard for this year, because everything would have been affected by a different draft.

Last year they said they were looking at Carimi in round 1 (and Sproles in FA).

I had
1 Carimi or Sherrod
2 Randall Cobb or Greg Little
3 Alex Green or Kendall Hunter
4 Rashard Carmichael
5 Mike Mohamed

But if you go by what the Falcons drafted, it would be

1) Carimi
2) Cobb or Little
3) Akeem Dent
4) ?

But then they would have kept Jenkins, gone different in FA, and the OL defections would have played out differently.

Likely the accurate comparison is:
Carimi, Cobb/Little, 4th round (from 11), Decastro/Fleener/DE, Nick Toon from 12

So, that's the question, I guess.

Would you rather have Carimi, Cobb, Decastro and Nick Toon or Julio.

It's still a legit question...just pretty sure the FO wouldn't have taken Cleveland's guys, and these are the guys (or types of guys) the Falcons were targeting.

I'll be glad when this debate is over..!! A lot depends on how Ryan plays...... Its done, and for some it could never be worth it; and for others it already is!!

I think its safe to say it won't be the trade that blew the Falcons up or puts us in a Superbowl; unless Julio plays lights out and we did go to a Super Bowl next year which I'd bet big bucks against!!

Ewing is not better than Marecic. Don't let homerism lead you astray on that. As a senior, Marecic started at both FB and MLB. And is/was a much more physical pile clearer than Ewing ever was. If this was a case of dumping Ovie for Marecic rather than Ovie for Ewing, it would be a much different narrative.

Also, who the Browns selected with the traded picks has little factor in judging this trade whether it was good or not. Just like with the Vick trade, the fact that the Chargers wound up with 2 future HOFers (Tomlinson & Brees) doesn't make that any less or better of a trade.

At the end of the day, the only thing that'll make the Jones trade worth it is if Jones becomes one of the more dynamic WRs in the league and is a game changer. He has not become that so far, despite all that people have tried to hype him to be over the past 9 months. He could become that play, but it would require Mike Smith to unchain him.

Nice analysis, I was too lazy to figure this out, but had been wondering since the draft. I'd honestly take all those other players. If we ever take the chains off Ryan/Julio then it could be different, but the two hopeful oline starters could have been Carimi/DeCastro and then let Cobb develop. I suppose in the long run it'll boil down to just how good does JJ get (and do we actually let the Ferrari out of the garage?).
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"Pudge Wrote"

Pudge I don't see anyone hyping Julio. You have no clue just like the rest of us, if the trade was worth it or not; What is a game changer anyway, is Ryan, is Roddy, maybe Abe a few years back; but if you want to put a what it will take to make
the Julio trade worth it; I'd guess Matt Ryan's improvement on being accurate on some longer throws to Julio; which he says he's working on right now? And that's just a guess like yours is!!

I've seen plenty of people hyping Julio. Some said last year about a month into the season that Julio was the main reason why we were 2-2 instead of 0-4, which was the biggest crock ever. Julio did next to nothing vs. the Eagles, in fact you could argue he hurt the team much more than he helped us, and the fact is saying he helped when that game is doing a huge disservice to the play of Michael Turner and Tony Gonzalez, and the defense making some opportunistic turnovers, which did help us when that game.


Like I've said a thousand times before, that is not enough to make the trade worth it. The Falcons could have used a 5th round pick (Denarius Moore) to help Matt Ryan improve his accuracy on a deep ball. Going back to the analogy about grocery shopping I've used in the past to explain the Jones trade and why it is out of whack, your statement above is basically $10.00 worth of value. But you've just spend $30.00 to make it happen, and you're saying as long as we get $10 back, we're OK. And I say no, that is ludicrous because you're $20 in the red.

If all you wanted was a good deep threat, you didn't need to spend two 1sts, a 2nd, and two 4ths to get one. You could have just used a 5th to get that type of player.

What we gave up for Jones was almost the same exact price the Bears gave up for Jay Cutler, a player that they envisioned as a Franchise QB, a player they envisioned would be the huge piece that would take them from an also-ran team to a Super Bowl champion. Many I suspect would argue that is fair compensation for that type of player. And unless Julio Jones has a comparable impact for this team, then he's not going to be worth it.

And the reason I'm pessimistic to the whole thing is because I don't believe this current coaching staff ever envisioned him or planned on him becoming that caliber of player. I think all they ever really wanted out of him was just a better version of Michael Jenkins, i.e. the player that most of us all wanted Jenks to be over the past 7 years. I think that's pretty much what Julio Jones was last year. And I think because of that, this coaching staff won't really push for much more from him. And in my eyes, without that push, he'll never live up to what we gave up for him.

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