[Lance is still the best. I had done a bit of digging about the juicing in cycling when they stripped him of his titles. Turns out that just about everyone he raced against has been found guilty of juicing at one point or another. The thing about Lance is, he was never caught. EVER. All of the rest of them were. If Lance was juicing, he was beating other guys who were juicing. Does that make it right? Nope. But it is pretty obvious that the cycling world is rife with juicers. Lance is the best among them..
*note to Pudge* sorry about the threadjack into Lance Armstrong. I know it should be in another forum like the Lounge.Forgiveness please..
the problem was, he was a dick about it. Its ok that everyone was doing it, but they way he was 'doing it'
was what set him apart. It's what made his teammates and collegues rat him out. He is the Jeff George of the cycling world, with a little Cutler thrown in for good measure:http://www.theweek.co.uk/cycling/lance- ... ht-survive
He needs to seperate from his charity. Then, he needs to go to rehab, cry on Oprah's couch, and start enterting triathalons and hope for an arthitis sponsorship. Or , he can just be bitter and take his ball and go home. I think Sheryl Crow didnt get her tumor from her cellphone, it probably came from Lance's rotten sack.
In 1998 I was on my honeymoon, and we went to Europe. One of our stops was France, and this was during the World Cup and the Tour De France, in July. Stupid travel agent didnt know those 2 things were going on at the same time! Anyways we got out of Paris and rented what they called a 'penichette', which is really a little river/houseboat. It was cheap and a way to see the countryside through the rivers and canals. We stopped at a little country town and found the one local tavern, and decided to stay and watch the TDF and the WC there for a couple days. So we got kind of familiar with the family that owned the bar and thier crowd.
To a person, these people admired and actually rooted for Lance. They rooted for him in his win in 1999, and they sent us a nice note to let us know they were on his side..I thought that was kinda neat...They thought of him as an underdog, and they thought the same thing of thier national football team. They were touched by his story, and they all readily admitted that all of them juiced. That really didn't matter.
I fell out of touch with them in the 00's, but found them again in 2010 online. I know its anecdotal, but I think when he won his 3rd or 4th TDF, and was basically flaunting his use and denying using, that's when the locals there had enough. They pretty much told me they considered Lance a prick. I thought that was really sad. Here, they had rooted for this guy, and then he kept coming back and being the 'ugly American' who mocked the testing companies and the cycling authorities who were 'trying' to keep it clean...That's not at all like our MLB, where they ALL knew juicing was going on, but turned a blind eye to help recapture fans after the strike. They dont view the testing or authorities like we do. In fact, this is thier lil sport: and they dont like it being taken over by pharmacueticals.
I say this because early on, I was a Lance guy: who thought all the testing was done to harass him, or they were trying too hard to bust him. Yeah, I might have had that stupid yellow bracelet at one point, too. But after looking over the evidence, that's not the case. And I guess somewhere in rural France, there's some wine bottles popping.
sorry for the hijack folks. back to your regularly scheduled programming