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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 11:52 am 
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Don't know how many of you catch NFLE action on the NFL Network but I have been impressed with CB Robert Redd. To say the guy is a corner is an understatement as he plays both sides of the ball (was a WR in college) and also is an outstanding punt and kick return man.

I saw on AF.com that 49.1 % of those polled think he has the best shot of making the Falcons this coming year from the NFLE guys. What do you all think and how would he fit into our CB role?

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how many guys have we had come over and do much at all? I think it may be wishful thinking?

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Yeah, I believe Tony Graziani is the only NFL Europe player that made the opening roster for the Falcons, and that lasted only 1 week before he was cut.

Redd does have a shot due to his success in the return game, but it's going to be hard for him to come in here and beat out Rossum, Jennings, and Cobb.

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Yeah, I believe Tony Graziani is the only NFL Europe player that made the opening roster for the Falcons, and that lasted only 1 week before he was cut.

Redd does have a shot due to his success in the return game, but it's going to be hard for him to come in here and beat out Rossum, Jennings, and Cobb.


Wasnt Tony "Deer in the Headlights" Graziani on this team for a couple or three years? I thought he was a backup for Reeves for a couple of years and did a played in a couple of mop up games...


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Well his spring in NFL EUrope was his last year with the Falcons. Prior to the 2000 season, the Falcons sent him to NFL EUrope for one last chance to prove himself since at the time Chandler and Kanell were firmly the #1 and #2 guys. We picked up Doug Johnson that year as well as an undrafted free agent. Graz I recall actually did OK in NFL Europe, came into training camp fighting with DJ for the #3 job. The Falcons wound up choosing both for opening day, I believe because Kanell was less than 100%. As soon as Kanell was healthy enough to play, they cut Graz.

I looked it up and I was wrong. Graz in 2000, and Romby Bryant last year are the only NFL Europe allocations that have made the opening day roster the same year they were allocated. Bryant lasted a few weeks on the roster, then a few more weeks on the practice squad before he was dumped a week before Thanksgiving.

Other players such as Mookie Moore and David Rivers (both 2003) and Marques McFadden and Brandon Miller (both 2002) have managed to land practice squad spots. BUt between 2000 and 2005, the Falcons allocated 40 players, only 2 managed to make the team, and only 4 more managed to make the practice squad. That's about 15% of the guys manage to stick with the team, so that means with 8 guys this year heading to camp, perhaps 1 actually has a shot at the p-squad or roster.

I think maybe Ryan Bowers has a pretty good shot. He showed some ability on kick returns this spring (23.7 avg) and led his team with 8 special teams tackles. Looks like he could be another Kevin McCadam type at safety.

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Redd is a long shot to be certain, to make the team.

Graz started, I think, the second game of 1999 against the Rams after Chandelier was hurt. No, it was the third game of that year because the Rams had a bye in week#2.

If we'll recall,...London Fletcher grabbed Graz's face mask trash talking and Bob Whitfield blasted Fletcher,...and Big Bob was ejected and the Rams went on to beat the crap outts the Crows. Man did I hate the Rams back then,...bunch of classless bas*****. The wins in 2004 were soooooooo sweet!

Gotta agree with the Pudge,...Redd could be a practice squad candidate but that's about all.


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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9460805

- Just an article for those interested, as a followup on the NFLE stuff. What do you know, another former VT defensive back (Whitaker) making noise...

Speaking realistically, a good number of the players allocated by NFL teams are, in reality, free agents signed just before the allocation period and destined to be released after a period as camp fodder. Of course, some will use the opportunity to demonstrate their skills and supply tape to the whole league, not just their team, to their ultimate advantage. But ask any NFL Europe coach and he'll tell you there's nothing he appreciates more than a free agent who works hard to play at this level.

Every year there are a few players who've made the NFL Europe rosters without NFL affiliation and who have shown enough over the course of the season to make them attractive to teams looking for a free-agent bargain. The odds are always bad that they will make a team, but among these 10 players, don't be surprised if more than a couple surface on NFL rosters or practice squads in the fall. Ranked in approximate order, here are the top 10 free agents from this season, and virtually all of them play on the defensive side of the ball.

1. Ronyell Whitaker, CB, Rhein: He's hardly an unknown, as he's actually started in the NFL before. Whitaker has delivered big plays for Rhein all season.

Bryan Save, DT, Cologne: He made Pro Football Weekly's All-League Team in 2005, and though he's always going to be an injury worry, Save is the kind of active tackle that could suit a team needing a one-gap player inside.

Kevin Harrison, LB, Berlin: Best suited to play inside. He may be a little small at 6-foot and 245 pounds, but he's a hitter.

Earl Cochrane, DE, Amsterdam: In his second year with the Admirals, he's been steadily effective. Perhaps not explosive enough, but at 6-5 and 285, he could spark interest in a 3-4 defense.

Travis Harris, LB, Frankfurt: The Florida product led the Galaxy in tackles, which is what the system wants from its MLB. He's a bit undersized at 6-2 and 240, but he can make plays.

James Lee, DT, Amsterdam: Another guy with both NFL tape and some injury worries, but the 6-5, 325-pound Lee brings something to the table that can't be coached -- size. He could stir up interest for a team needing a two-gap space eater in the middle.

Terrence Robinson, LB, Rhein: Another two-year European player who's just a little small and slow by NFL standards, but has shown he can play enough to be valuable on the bench and special teams.

Derrick Strong, DE, Rhein: Strong is a pass-rush specialist who needs a little bit more explosiveness in his rush, but gave good effort, and in the right system could be useful.

Tyler Lenda, C/G, Amsterdam: A sentimental choice because he's played well at both positions over two seasons. He's always going to be small for an NFL line, but a zone-blocking team needing an overachiever that can back up at two spots might bring him to camp.

Noriaki Kinoshita, KR, Amsterdam: The Japanese product from that football powerhouse Ritsumeikan University would have a huge adjustment to make, but he's got the ability to make the first tackler miss and averaged 27.9 on kickoff returns and almost 15 yards on just a few punt returns.


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Robinson spent a few weeks on our roster and/or practice squad back in 2003 or 2004 I think. Yeah, a lot of teams use NFL Europe to send players that they don't plan on making the roster. The Falcons are one of those teams. Under Reeves, and thus far under Mora, it seems that the Falcons if they really like a player, they will keep him stateside so they can more closely evaluate him. I'm not sure even if the Falcons send one of their scouts to Europe to watch the games. I wouldn't be surprised if all they do is watch them on NFL Network.

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