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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:13 pm 
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Before the board police (Emimitt) gets on me for posting it here, I do because some were clamoring for Haley to come here. cough, cough RobertAP. On second thought, he might just fit in here with all the other conspiracy fans here.

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At some point in our lives, most of us will experience sour grapes over a job that — for one reason or another — we were let go from. Whether it be Pizza Hut or Goldman Sachs, there’s usually a bit of lingering resentment after an employer terminates you.

Todd Haley’s case is no different, though his grapes — or more appropriately, arrows — go way beyond the realm of the NFL.

In a first-hand account by the Kansas City Star, Haley opened up about what he perceived to be secretive — and illegal — operations inside the organization.

Haley suspected that “many rooms” at the team facility were “bugged,” and his own personal cellphone was “tampered with” during his time as Chiefs head coach. He believed the purpose of the alleged spying was to “monitor employees’ conversations.”

This definitely reeks of paranoia by Haley, whose peculiar and volatile personality leads some to think he’s a few cards short of a deck.


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Because I start twirling my finger next to my temple and say "Cuckoo," I will inject this...

...In New England it is and widely believed by the majority of players, even the guys that only played with that team for a brief period that they were always being monitored while they were in that team's facility. Perhaps that was one of the things that Pioli brought over to KC.

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I'm the board police? Damn that hurts, I'm 18 years old yet people think I'm a control freak already. :doh:

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I'm the board police? Damn that hurts, I'm 18 years old yet people think I'm a control freak already. :doh:


Most people don't bother to add "control." :whistle:

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 Post subject: Re: Todd Haley: Nuttier than squirrel s***?
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There's a lot of nuttier that squirrel **** out there in the NFL, and a lot of those folks have been to superbowls. How many times have you heard Belichick doing crazy crap? What about Al Davis? How about Josh McDaniels for drafting Tebow? And look at our own front office, trading away the better part of two drafts for one WR.

Haley knows offense in the NFL. He might be a loose cannon, (and I even pointed out that he was) but his record shows that he knows offense. So what if he's a bit out there?


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Seems like I read once where most of the meeting rooms at FB were "bugged" or had some kind of AV thing going so AB could look in. It wasn't clandestined though. Shoot, the hallways to high schools now are under surveillance like Gitmo. It's the world we live in and, sadly, have largely chosen to create.

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Yes all coaching meeting are filmed by Arthur......He says he wants to see what is being discussed in his absence...... Its
not a secret, I believe the first year was after Reeves was fired. After watching the NFLs "on hbo "with the Jets and other teams,
I believe today its rather standard.....

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While this is understandable from a micromanaging point of view and everyone probably just forgets about it after a while I really wonder how useful this sort of thing is. Just another creepy aspect of the modern Orwellian world we live in. Thankfully at present they do not have the technology to read our minds.

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While this is understandable from a micromanaging point of view and everyone probably just forgets about it after a while I really wonder how useful this sort of thing is. Just another creepy aspect of the modern Orwellian world we live in. Thankfully at present they do not have the technology to read our minds.



Hmm.... I knew were going to say that before you said it......

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While this is understandable from a micromanaging point of view and everyone probably just forgets about it after a while I really wonder how useful this sort of thing is. Just another creepy aspect of the modern Orwellian world we live in. Thankfully at present they do not have the technology to read our minds.



Hmm.... I knew were going to say that before you said it......

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Yes all coaching meeting are filmed by Arthur......He says he wants to see what is being discussed in his absence


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Yes all coaching meeting are filmed by Arthur......He says he wants to see what is being discussed in his absence


Link?

You could Google it as well as anyone but I also recall reading this in the AJC some years back.

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backnblack wrote:
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Yes all coaching meeting are filmed by Arthur......He says he wants to see what is being discussed in his absence


Link?

You could Google it as well as anyone but I also recall reading this in the AJC some years back.


I could...but...I think we both know I won't find anything. I call BS. Does Blank have video calls with Smitty, TD and McKay? No doubt. But does he demand that every meeting is taped just so he can micromanage? I seriously, seriously doubt it. :liar:


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There probably should be a delineation from having the recordings on file, and actually watching them. I doubt Blank does the latter, but the former I think is probably right up his and probably many NFL owners alley. And if it's true that they did this in New England, I wouldn't be surprised if that carried over to Flowery Branch.

After all, the "Patriot Way" is basically everybody in the organization from the owner down to the janitors has a role/duty and their tasked with performing those duties to the best of their abilities. And what better way to motivate that by having (or at the least the perception of) Big Brother watching from the eye in the sky??

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There probably should be a delineation from having the recordings on file, and actually watching them. I doubt Blank does the latter, but the former I think is probably right up his and probably many NFL owners alley. And if it's true that they did this in New England, I wouldn't be surprised if that carried over to Flowery Branch.

After all, the "Patriot Way" is basically everybody in the organization from the owner down to the janitors has a role/duty and their tasked with performing those duties to the best of their abilities. And what better way to motivate that by having (or at the least the perception of) Big Brother watching from the eye in the sky??

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There is a difference between taping all meetings for the coaches and or players to go back and review and taping meetings just so an owner can micromanage. And even if Blank does demand all meetings get taped and delivered to him, I would think it's more to be kept in the loop rather than to put his approval or disapproval on every little thing that is said in Flowery Branch.


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Oh, I doubt Blank has ever popped a tape into his VCR/DVD player. I'm sure if Blank wants to be kept in the loop, he goes right to the source: TD, Smitty, or even McKay. Again, I doubt highly that there are actual "Big Brother" stuff going on in Flowery Branch, in that individuals are reviewing vids of the daily goings-on there. In reality, it's probably nothing more than your typical security cam footage, which unless something goes awry, nobody ever really watches. But I think it's far more likely that at least the perception that stuff is going on. Because I think it behooves the powers that be IMO that perception is out there. Anybody that has taken a psych class or is just a common everyday observer of human nature knows that people can/will radically change their behavior if there is the perception that there could be consequences for their actions.

Now in the case of Todd Haley, the idea that phones and rooms are being bugged with listening devices is probably a bit paranoid. I certainly don't think any of that happens in Flowery Branch.

But with Haley's comments, there is really no context for what he is saying. Tampering with cellphones? Maybe, there were Chiefs IT guys that were trying to install some software/app on their team-issued phones, and Haley didn't want them to put it on his own personal phone, but they did anyway. That would certainly qualify as "tampering," but without proper context we don't really know specifically what Haley means by tampering. Did they bug his phone, or was it simply that he suspected that they put something far less malevolent that he didn't want on there?

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Yes all coaching meeting are filmed by Arthur......He says he wants to see what is being discussed in his absence


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You could Google it as well as anyone but I also recall reading this in the AJC some years back.


I could...but...I think we both know I won't find anything. I call BS. Does Blank have video calls with Smitty, TD and McKay? No doubt. But does he demand that every meeting is taped just so he can micromanage? I seriously, seriously doubt it. :liar:

OK, we just made up a big lie about this because we hate Arthur Blank.

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OK, we just made up a big lie about this because we hate Arthur Blank.



I just think a few normally rational people's opinions are slanted at times because of their dislike of Blank.


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OK, we just made up a big lie about this because we hate Arthur Blank.



I just think a few normally rational people's opinions are slanted at times because of their dislike of Blank.

I actually don't dislike Blank which is a misconception you seemingly have come to. I'd love for him to buy the Braves, frankly. I'm just calling a spade a spade. He is a micro managing uber marketeer and if you were to go back and read his comments over the years after each coach is hired and fired it is basically the same spiel about fans being number one and our corporate sponsors and community service and blah, blah, blah. He just is what he is. I do think he is narcissistic and that the team is an extension of this but I don't think that makes him a completely bad person or a bad owner. He'd just be better on both counts if he were less so. Nobody's perfect.

Regardless, what we said about the AJC reporting that all coaches meetings were taped so he could review them is true. Whether he does this or not I really have no idea. However, IMO, reality suspends a bit when a camera enters a scene. For example, did TD and Smitty look like they had a gun to their heads at the last presser? Sure did to me.

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AngryJohnny51 wrote:
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Yes all coaching meeting are filmed by Arthur......He says he wants to see what is being discussed in his absence


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You could Google it as well as anyone but I also recall reading this in the AJC some years back.


I could...but...I think we both know I won't find anything. I call BS. Does Blank have video calls with Smitty, TD and McKay? No doubt. But does he demand that every meeting is taped just so he can micromanage? I seriously, seriously doubt it. :liar:



I have been reticent to jump in here because I DO think Haley is a little tin-foily, but in all honesty I wouldn't be surprised if all the meetings are indeed taped, and there is plenty of monitoring of locker rooms, medical facilities, etc...As a matter of fact, a slew of industries do this not because of micro-management but because of liability. If a coach or a person in a position of authority makes a promise that cannot be fulfilled and a legal issue can arise, you would be stupid NOT to 'get it on tape'..Hell I've worked in businesses where they not only monitor every word, but every email and hard line phone call as well. Happened to me when I worked for the Humane Society 7 years ago! My old lady says every single professional meeting she has with ANYBODY is on hard drive. Now, think about an NFL locker room. Someone accidentally gets shot in it, and you have no tape showing it was just some dumbass showing off his 'hardware' and your ready for a 'Proper Sandusky' if your name is Arthur Blank. Or, a fistfight occurs. Who threw the first punch? Lets say Roddy gets lippy with Abe and he punches him in the face, breaking his eye socket. Not only do you need witnesses, etc it helps if it's caught on tape, especially once lawyers and insurance gets involved. Believe it.

Now, I am not saying what Haley said is true, but the idea that Flowery Branch is monitored is not 'cuckoo'. And given Arthur's past and how he likes the technology to 'save $$' I wouldn't be surprised. Remember Jam98? Think they flew him in for a workout, or watched his tape? Because it has already been admitted they only watched his tape, and hence when he sucked everyone was like 'what did they see in this clown?'..Recall how TD was hired face to face over a steaming plate of Stephanie's Patented Lasagna? Of course not, because his interview was a video conference. So we dont really know, but like I said it would not suprise me in the least. :so:

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Noted and documented. :roll:

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Noted and documented. :roll:

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Noted and documented. :roll:

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