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 Post subject: Pioli and Dimitroff talk shop
PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:34 pm 
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TD admits mistakes in private....what could they be? Jones perhaps? Ryan perhaps?

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Former Patriots executives Scott Pioli and Thomas Dimitroff, now general managers of the Chiefs and Falcons, respectively, joined The Big Show in Indianapolis Thursday. The two discussed their days with the Patriots and what they hope to achieve with their current franchises.

Bill Belichick has been more friendly with the media since arriving in Indianapolis for the Super Bowl, to the surprise of many. Neither Pioli nor Dimitroff are surprised to see this side of him.

“Bill and I worked together for 16 years, and I’ve known him since 1987,” Pioli said. “That’s the Bill I know. Maybe it’s not shown that often publicly.”

Dimitroff said that neither he nor the city of Atlanta are strangers to Belichick’s perky persona.

“What I know of Bill is last year he came on one of our local radio stations and was waxing poetic about the Grateful Dead and Bon Jovi, and we had a half-hour talk,” Dimitroff said. “It’s not that new for me I guess.”

Said Pioli to Dimitroff: “Maybe getting rid of you and me is lighting him up a little bit. With the two of us not being around, we don’t wear him out as much.”

Pioli said he isn’t surprised to find Belichick still making it to Super Bowls, as he feels the Patriots organization, from Robert Kraft down, has set a standard from which they haven’t strayed.

“A large part is consistency,” Pioli said of what makes the Patriots such a good franchise. “It’s stability and consistency. It starts with Robert, Jonathan [Kraft] and Bill quite honestly. … It’s a matter of consistency and being the same people every day. Everyoone knows what to expect. When you know what to expect in the work place, whether you’re a player, a trainer, an equipment guy, a video guy, the entire [organization], everyone knows what to expect. The leadership, they’re the same people every single day, and that just makes for a great work environment. It allows people to do their jobs more efficiently and better.”

While the people and the philosophies have remained constant for the most part, Dimitroff said that one of Belichick’s best qualities is the ability to constantly analyze his decisions and find others who do the same.

“I think what’s very, very impressive about Bill and about Scott and I hope, hope me, when we’re putting together our teams and our groups of guys, whether it’s the players or the personnel or the coaches, that we’re getting the people that are their harshest critics themselves,” Dimitroff said. “That’s what I think is very important. Bill, it seemed, never had to really go around the people and lay into people, nor did Scott. We all beat ourselves up more than I think anyone else would beat ourselves up.”

Added Pioli: “And you try to surround yourself with people with that [mindset]. You don’t want them to be necessarily like-minded, you want them to have similar values and similar pride, quite honestly.”

The three haven’t been afraid to deal with one another since Pioli and Dimitroff departed New England, as major trades, such as the Matt Cassel trade to the Chiefs in 2008 and the trade of Tony Gonzalez from the Chiefs to the Falcons in 2009, have gone down between the executives. Dimitroff and Pioli noted that they stay in close contact and talk shop, and that the trust they’ve built over the years pays off in the workplace.

“Before we ever get to the point of criticizing one another, with Thomas and I, what absolutely happens is Thomas will call me and say ‘Scott, what do you think about this? I think I might have made a mistake,’ and I do the same thing with him,” Poilio said. “… I don’t need Thomas to criticize me, because I’m throwing it all out there. … I don’t mind that he sees the core of what I am and the mistakes I’m making, because I know whatever feedback I’m going to get is real.”

The Chiefs fired coach Todd Haley in December, after which a Kansas City Star piece ran saying Haley believed Pioli was bugging rooms at the team facility.

“I read that,” Pioli said. “[Chairman and CEO] Clark Hunt and [President] Mark Donovan said it at the time and I’ll say it again: Unequivocally, completely, totally untrue.”


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:04 am 
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Well Thomas D. sure took over arguably the most scattered team in football and done a tremendous job...... Of course their will be mistakes;
but our 3 playoffs out of 4 winning season's shows consistency of very improved play from our Franchise....

His mistakes are IMO getting Edwards; not having enough players on the O- line to step in when someone goes down;
witch is both drafting, and free agency, and although I count P.Jerry an injury; one that he won't recover from; Thomas has just made the
mistake with Edwards and many mistakes concerning our Defensive ends.....

If our Qb & Julio continue to improve we might really be heading upwards.....Pioli is not nearly as good as Thomas D.

I still want Matt Cassel, Maybe Ryan for Cassel and Dorsey..... Dorsey started playing better in his 2nd year, but came back in 2011
to about where he was as a rookie again....

The Tony G. trade has turned out pretty good!!

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Every GM makes mistakes. The CB Middleton was cut before pre-season was over if I recall correctly so I think that would qualify as a self confessed mistake. He could also be referring to amount an dlength of any given contract or, for that matter, deciding not to give someone a contract (Michael Boley?). I don't think in any way, shape or form he would view drafting Matt Ryan as a mistake. We fans do a lot of projecting our own personal theories from the smalles if tidbits in the press. He may be talking about his decision to wear those sports coats with the leather elbow patches.

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TD has done a good job. His primary mistake has been his mediocre drafting. Had he hit on the Jerry pick, not given up this year's #1, and probably found a diamond in the rough at some point after Round 3, the Falcons would be in a lot better circumstances going forward.

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