fun gus wrote:
I think you missed my point. In order to get Eifert, they will have to trade up, or take him at #30. If he falls to the second round go for it. But, our first pick needs to be an immediate contributor at a position of need. TE (this year) is not a position of need. Next year, yes. We have TG and Coffman. That will get us through. But we need a DE or a CB because we only have one ( Osi and Samuels) and if one of those goes down, were screwed. If TG goes down (which is very unlikely) we still have Roddy, Julio, SJax, HD and Coffman. But we lose one of our DE or CB and were in big trouble.
And everyone is aware that the SEC is the most dominant conference in college football, period, end of story. Im not saying the guy would suck, but Notre Dame doesn't even play in a conference, and if they strictly played in the SEC, they would not even make the Championship game. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... mHweQiUlNAhttp://espn.go.com/college-football/pla ... ler-eifert
He is no Gronk.
I don't think I missed your point at all.
I keep hearing how people say that DE is a position of need that is more immediate than other spots. Why? My feeling is that everybody and their mother seems to think Kroy Biermann has no business starting for this team. And they feel like a good DE will come in right away and relegate Kroy from someone that will play 700-800 snaps a year to a guy that may only play about 300-400 (about as much as Anderson played back in 2010).
First off, I think people underestimate Kroy. Secondly, I think people underestimate how much Nolan likes Kroy. And thirdly, I think people probably overestimate how NFL ready most rookie defensive ends are.
I find it hilarious that most of the fan base is down on Kroy Biermann, yet seem to think Corey Peters is fine at DT. But I know exactly why that is. Biermann is only a 3-5 sack guy, and unless a guy gets 8+ sacks, then people will ALWAYS view that DE is not good enough. And if Corey Peters makes 1 or 2 INTs over the course of 2.5 seasons, he'll get a pass.
But anyway, you might be able to draft this DE like Bjoern Werner or Tank Carradine and he might become the next Ryan Kerrigan or Brandon Graham. Or you could draft him and he could be the next Robert Ayers.
As for Eifert, you're right he's not going to come in and set the world on fire. He's going to only play about 300-400 snaps this year as a rookie. But what he is, assuming he gets comfortable in the offense fairly quickly is a better 4th option in the passing game than Harry Douglas. And when Gonzalez walks away next year, he's going to be the starter, and very well could be as good as Gonzalez was here in ATL in the very near future.
He's no Gronk? If you had seen Gronk play at Arizona and then watched Eifert play at Notre Dame, then I think you might realize there isn't a lot of difference. For the record, Eifert is the highest rated TE prospect I've had since Gronk. IIRC I gave Gronk a draft grade of 7.2, while Eifert gets a 7.0 from me.
again, you completely missed my point. I guess it's a combo of SEC Hatin' and Eifert Lovin'
Look, nobody is complaining about Mr Zolciak. But he is not an 'impact' player. We have (maybe) ONE Impact DE. We have one impact CB. Then we have guys like Biermann and McClain. Our first pick simply must be on D, or you can kiss Nolan goodbye next year. I sure wouldn't stay in the kitchen trying to make chicken salad out of chickensh*t.
But we have plenty of IMPACT players already on offense, and we dont need to 'gamble' on a guy like Ty Ty.
Or, Zach Ertz...And by 'gamble' I mean hope Biermann becomes an impact player. We do not 'need' a guy who at best
will be the 5th option, because TG might be gone next year.
To trade up or get this guy @#30 is silly. Look at his stats. He gets great numbers vs patsies. I watched the Championship game, the reason he got 6 for 61 is because that team had no business ( 42-14!) even being there, Bama's D completely shut down thier deep threats, the only other option was running or TE. Garbage time stats
. And, he struggled vs Bama, the closest thing to the NFL in college football. Puh-leeze..
Bama was already up by 14 when he got his first reception. If Gronk 2.0 played in the SEC, his numbers would not be that good
. If TG wasn't on the team, then I might be more willing to gamble. But, we have more pressing needs.
If TD is as enamored with Ty Ty, and jumps to get him, that will be a mistake. (Now, cue the obvious retort 'Trust TD, look at what he has done so far'. )