fun gus wrote:RobertAP wrote:Let's take a look at our drafts under Dimitroff
Matt Ryan - Star
Sam Baker - solid starter
Curtis Lofton - gone
Chevis Jackson - Bust
Harry Douglas - career backup
Thomas Decoud - pro-bowler
Robert James - nothing
Kroy Biermann - below average starter/backup
Thomas Brown - nothing
Wilrey Fontnot - nothing
Keith Zinger - nothing
Peria Jerry - Bust
William Moore - pro-bowler
Christopher Owens - gone
Lawrence Sidbury - nothing
William Middleton - nothing
Garrett Reynolds - career backup
Spencer Adkins - career backup
Vance Walker - career backup
Sean Weatherspoon - solid starter (possible pro-bowler)
Corey Peters - below average starter
Mike Johnson - nothing
Joe Hawley - nothing
Dominique Franks - nothing
Kerry Meier - nothing
Shann Schillinger - nothing
Julio Jones - Star (and he better be... Cost us 2 firsts, a second, and two fourth rounders.)
Akeem Dent - below average starter
Jacquizz Rodgers - apparent career backup/situational player (I happen to think the kid has talent, but TD apparently doesn't have much confidence in him)
Matt Bosher - solid punter
Andrew Jackson - nothing
Cliff Matthews - nothing
Peter Konz - below average starter playing out of position (might be playing in position this year, so we'll see)
Lamar Holmes - ?
Bradie Ewing - ?
Jonathan Massaquoi - ?
Charles Mitchell - ?
Travian Robinson - ?
Aside from his first draft, Dimitroff has managed to get one or two decent players from each of his drafts. I am curious how other teams have fared over the same time period, but from where I'm standing, this is not the makings of a stellar team. The success of this team is largely due to the guy throwing the ball. Good on Dimitroff for drafting him, but outside of that move, the rest of this looks pretty meh.
This draft, he's started out by taking a couple of CBs who he reached to get... The first round pick was a 2nd round talent, and the 2nd round pick was a 3rd round talent. Dimitroff is not as great as some of you think. I used to like the man, but as time has gone on, his decisions have gotten worse and worse.
Superbowl or bust! (cause we're not going to be going anywhere after this year)
from the afmb:
Every player Thomas Dimitroff has drafted since 2009 in rounds 5-7 is still in the league.That's nothing short of ridiculous, and too good to be a fluke.
William Middleton, CB, 5th round, Jacksonville Jaguars - has seen action in 49 games since being drafted, and has started 12. Current starting nickelback for the Jags.
Garrett Reynolds, OG, 5th round, Atlanta Falcons - currently penciled in as the starter at RG in 2012. Has improved greatly since being drafted, impressing even me, his harshest critic, because I absolutely hated him in 2011. In 2012, he was a great interior pass blocker and improved his run blocking dramatically.
Spencer Adkins, LB, 6th round, Baltimore Ravens - largely a special teamer, having seen action in 24 games and started 1.
Vance Walker, DT, 7th round, Oakland Raiders - saw action all 16 games of every season as a Falcon except for 2009, where he was there for 10. Starter 11 of them. 5 sacks over the last two years and probably tied with Babs for our most consistent defensive tackle last year. Currently projected to start for the Raiders - and they're so comfortable with him as a starter that they only drafted one defensive tackle in the 2013 draft, and it was in the 6th round.
Dominique Franks, CB, 5th round, Atlanta Falcons - not a big fan of his, but you can't deny that he's come a long way. Has played in 32 games as a Falcon, starting 4 of them, with 3 interceptions and 8 PDs, and was our (admittedly bad) return guy last year. That's good value in the fifth round.
Kerry Meier, WR, 5th round, Atlanta Falcons - well, I'm sorry to say it, but he was only cut 5 days ago, and that technically makes him qualify. Has played in 12 games in 2011, but is a ghost on the statsheet. But he's probably da future.
Shann Schillinger, S, 6th round, Atlanta Falcons - good special teamer, albeit that's all he'll probably ever be. Has played in 31 games as a Falcon. Rounds out the 2nd worst late-round draft of TD's career, the first being 2008.
Jacquizz Rodgers, RB, 5th round, Atlanta Falcons - ...does he really need an introduction? Fan favorite and one of my personal favorites, to the point where I actually made a highlight video of his on Youtube, where it has in 3 months accrued 22K+ views and 115 likes with no dislikes. That's right, even Saints fans can't downvote him. Has played in all 32 games as a Falcon with almost 1200 total yards, not counting yards from scrimmage as our kick returner. People wanted him over Turner as a starter, and with Jackson, people are confident his numbers will go up even further. 4 TDs in his career and a straight beast in the clutch - something numbers can't quite measure.
Matt Bosher, P, 6th round, Atlanta Falcons - someone who was once an inside joke has turned into a pretty freaking good punter, and apparently someone the staff sees as having potential as a kicker as well. His leg started shaky, but it's a lot easier to be confident in him now. Obviously a starter every game he's played, and handles kickoff duties as well. What I like most? He makes ST tackles.
Andrew Jackson, OG, 7th round, Buffalo Bills - sadly, that's where his resume ends. Hasn't really done much yet, but he's still on a roster.
Cliff Matthews, DE, 7th round, Atlanta Falcons - has failed to impress so far, though he's been involved in 10 games. He was in the rotation more this year, but I can't say I love him.
Bradie Ewing, FB, 5th round, Atlanta Falcons - injured last year, but I like him a lot. Reminds me of Kuhn. Option as a receiver as well as a blocker, and expected to start this year.
Jonathan Massequoi, DE, 5th round, Atlanta Falcons - a joke he was even available here, if you ask me. He was a monster in 2010 and was forced into a role he didn't fit for 2011, yet still played well enough to earn 3rd round grades from Mayock and most other draft experts. I still have confidence he might eventually start, and until then, he's rotational depth I can feel very comfortable with. 8 games played so far as a Falcon.
Charles Mitchell, S, 6th round, Atlanta Falcons - played in 10 games last year as a good ST player and a pretty smooth looking safety. Freakish athlete who could have starting potential if not behind the great safeties we already have. And we add to that this year...loving it.
Travian Robertson, DT, 7th round, Atlanta Falcons - played in 7 games last year, starting none of them, but impressing people enough on these boards for us to declare him an eventual starter. Funnily enough, I'm tempted to agree. His tape doesn't agree with the fact that he slid to the 7th. Steal, and someone we'll see a lot more of this year.
And now, in 2013, we add four new players. Stansly Maponga, Kemal Ishmael, Zeke Motta, and Sean Renfree. So much depth in this draft - if it was the 2012 draft, Maponga would be a second round pick. Motta with a better 40 is a 3rd round pick, even in this draft. Renfree is mad underrated. And Ishmael, while not getting much love here, is possibly even better than Motta - a freak athlete with a nose for the ball that stood out in UCF games a lot. Really, watch him. Watch all of these guys.
I personally see this draft as being deeper than the 2009 draft - and in the 2009 draft, three of the guys became starters, with one still on a team as depth. Four years from now, could we be looking at Renfree, Maponga, Ishmael, and Motta, talking about them as starters? Wouldn't even surprise me at this point.
The Universe just shivered. I agree 100% with a Fun Gus post. I feel dirty.