No fun gus, his parents money doesn't really matter.
Just that I think the kids (black, white, or brown) that don't come from means deserve a bit more sympathy when we're talking about the temptation to break the rules and take $$$.
Cam Newton's dad asked for $180K from MSU to send his son there. They balked, and he wound up at Auburn. No intelligent person thinks Auburn didn't pay something to get Cam there. But the NCAA dismissed it because he was a high profile player on his way to a Nat'l Title game. They couldn't let that hang over the final month of the season. It was the same with Johnny Football this past summer with his suspension. That had nothing to do with his skin color.
But everything to do with the ineptitude of the NCAA, the biggest joke in America. All these scandals are not because of some NCAA probe, it's because some agent, runner, hanger on, or player snitched, squealed, or said something they shouldn't have. Then the NCAA's ignorant little head pops up and says, "Oh wait, is somebody cheating? Let's launch an investigation!"
And the schools just have to say, "Oh no, NCAA, we'll self-impose some sanctions and it'll be A-OK. Just have a seat, sip this lemonade and relax." And the NCAA does that and as far as they are concerned, they handled it. When they do launch investigations, it takes them 3 years to conclude anything (see Reggie Bush). Most of the time, they just say f*** it, like they did with Newton & Manziel, and did with the Freeh Report at PSU.
Pryor got suspended 5 games because he opted instead of taking his 5 game suspension from the NCAA he would just leave OSU and enter the supplemental draft. Roger Goodell didn't want that precedent to be set that ineligible players could use the NFL as a "get out of jail free" card. ANd it was aided by the entire state of Ohio hating him at that point, and thus it was easy to drop the hammer. Was that because he's black? No. But it was easy for people to accept his thuggishness, aloofness, etc. because of his skin color.
Will the NFL do any investigation into Johnny Football to see if the NCAA got it wrong? Teams will, but not the league. Is that because he's white? No. But all signs suggest that Johnny Football is also a huge douche as you said, a bit aloof, and the same sort of things that other players get villified for constantly. But you have this segment of people that are very quick to defend the kid and excuse his immaturity, etc.
And it just appears to me that since Johnny Manziel is a rich white kid from the right side of the tracks he's a victim in all this to many people. Meanwhile Terrelle Pryor and similar players because of the way they look and where they come from, it's much easier for people to assume that they are perpetrators.
yeah, I see what you are saying. there is a different standard for JM. It is clearly wrong.
One thing I will take differently" Johnny M IS a victim in one sense: he has agreed to a situation where his college and the NCAA can license and sell his image for profit, but he cannot. This goes for all the guys....Poor and Rich alike. People aren't saying 'oh, because he is rich he should not have the opportunity to make some side $$'..In fact , quite the opposite.
I just want to point out the way wealth envy plays into social situations like this. A kid with a trust fund still wants to make some side $$. It is wrong. But. IMO, it is not any 'wronger' then a poor guy doing it. It falls under the old 'is it wrong to steal a loaf of bread to feed your starving family' analogy. BUt lets be real: Cammy or Terrell or Johnny, or Arron or AJ: these college QB's arent in that situations. They aren't 'destitute' by any means..What the NCAA does abut it is wrong, but I dont hold JM to any higher standard of dumbassery just because mom and pops have loot. Even rich douchebags do stupid things.
Also, I find that using the 'poverty=crime forgiveness' thing is troubling. Making a point about the NCAA being corrupt is fine and good, but even poor people don't have to break the rules just because they are poor. Not trying to defend JM, but I am certain he just didn't get all that talent naturally. That is a result of hard work. Now, maybe he went to better schools, and had better coaching, and a better environment, in the end he still had to bust his ass to get where he is. It is a better thing to view this not as some rich
white kid getting away with something that another poorer
black kid didn't, it should be that some white kid is getting a hand up while a black guy who basically did the same thing ( but for tattoos? really?cmon) got a smackdown. Does this make sense?
Not to derail this thread, but allow me to discuss this thing my wife and I went round and round on last week. There is Julie Chen, who is married to Les Moonves, owner of Viacom ( CBS). She recently came out and said that 20 years ago, as a cub TV reporter in Dayton, Ohio ( WTF is wrong with Ohio?) and her boss at the time and a big time agent told her she had to get plastic surgery.
"He said, 'I cannot represent you unless you get plastic surgery to make your eyes look bigger,' " she relayed. "He then whips out a list of plastic surgeons who have done this surgery."
After discussing her options with her family, Chen ultimately decided to follow through with the procedure.
"After I had that done, the ball did roll for me," the 43-year-old acknowledged. "I struggle with, 'Wow, did I give in to the man
and do this?' "
This kinda stuff drives me nuts. On one hand, you got a woman with self esteem issues blaming a personal decision on being 'forced' to by 'the man'. I think it's awful, personally and kinda shameful.
But, my wife is more pragmatic and said 'well, she could have kept her old face and stayed in Dayton. But now she's married to one of the most powerful men in media, so it obviously worked for her.'
I might be a little more pissed if I was an asian woman. I may have one trapped inside of me